What's your price?
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i attended several cme meetings sponsored by drug companies in the
last couple of months:
1. jnc 7 report: sponsored by chlorthalidone makers
message: chlorthalidone best diuretic. should be stated as initial drug to
all patients. forget other drugs which are trivialities.
2.simvastatin vs atorvastatin: sponsored by simvastain makers.
message: simvastain a miracle drug, quoted 4S extensively,atorvastatin an
upstart, probably bogus drug not fully studied, does not reduce mortality.
3:management of unstable angina: sponsored by makers of lmwh.
message: all patients need to be on lmwh. alot of emphasis on EARLY
invasive intervention as speaker was an interventionalist.
4.recent advances in coronary artery disease: sponsored by ? yes you are
right, makers of des.
message: coronary restenosis can only be met head on with drug eluting
stents(des). speaker an interventinalist did not elaborate on
massive/collosal advances in field of imaging, drugs and surgery in
management of cad.
in return there were sumptious dinners ,sweets and unlimited booze,
sufficient to enebriate a whole city!
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I have a feeling that lunches are all right, but conditionality is
due to attitude of press.
If the Journal is told about something, it should be printed. This can be
all sorts of comments - adverse or favourable, in an impartial mood. Not
publishing material can be harmful to readers as well as to Science.
BMJ can be praised for keeping to ethics in most situations, in positive
things. One glaring exception that comes to mind is about medicated
mosquito nets. The article gave undue prominence to medication, without
comparing to unmedicated nets, and without going into effects of killer
medication on patients.
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Last night on Channel Five 'Law and Order' was about a murder
committed by a psychotic patient on an experimental drug, with more and
more irregularities coming to light as the story unfolds. The
overconfident researcher is shown to succomb to 'sponser pleasing' and the
inability to admit to mistakes to protect his good standing. His errors
include breaking protocol, changing findings and reports, cutting corners,
using excluded patients in his study, deceiving drug company
representatives, patient and parents. The conclusion made is that because
he did not do a PET scan on every patient he included in his study and
only requested it later, and then failed to reveal the result early
enough, he (the researcher) was guilty of the deaths of the victim and the
now inoperable patient.
Sometimes we are oblivious to the negative input patients get from
the media. I can only imagine what impression this must leave with
patients who might be recruited into studies in the near future. Its also
great for creating even more unrealistic expectations. Imagine every
patient you recruit for a study demand a PET scan first! It surely was a
bad PR night for research and medicine in general. I salute the BMJ for
talking openly about possible bias in research and giving a more balanced
view. By bringing such discussions into the open those doing an honest job
have a place to express and defend themselves, and patients have access to
balanced discussion. Hopefully they can take comfort in the fact that we
are seen to take a stand together against biased research.
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The most egregious unethical worthless method of payola from drug
companies is the "drug testing" which many of my colleagues are engaged in
as a means of substantially adding to their income at minimal effort.
Having spent a substantial period of my early career in clinical research
including drug evaluation, I feel totally competent to criticize these
efforts and to label them for what they are worth - nothing to the
evaluation of the drug - and undeserved income to the physician.In my
area, many physicians are engaged in these enterprises and none have ever
had research experience. The results, I am certain, are destroyed if
unfavorable and physicians who turn in bad evaluations are not employed
again. In my discipline of rheumatology, many have developed "clinical
research" units, primarily run by RN's who fill out the forms for $1000 +
per study person.This at a time when a critical shortage of
rheumatologists exists. The FDA and other control agencies should put a
stop to this activity and censor the physicians who have participated.
This is much worse than a free meal or a ball point pen.
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We regularly accept money from private and public sector clients to
carry out a range of evaluation studies. For the pharmaceutical industry,
these are typically then submitted to scrutiny by NICE.
There are other
ways in which this could be done, e.g. with NICE commissioning an outline
model to which companies could submit data but the present system provides
for review and checking. Many of our studies are published in peer
reviewed journals. Of course there is a risk that we will be pressurised
into putting the best spin on things. We have two defences.
We point out
that our reputation depends on not being biased (though we are accused of
it from time to time) and in that lies our value to our clients.
Secondly, we point out that if we distort the position, this will only
serve to make the actual position look even worse when it comes out, as it
inevitably must. We would be more than happy to publish papers in the BMJ
with the kind of review that you have recently published on a range of
different articles, so that your readers could judge for themselves.
More
seriously, you appear to assume that only private companies exert pressure
to get the results they want. Where have you been while the spin machine
in politics has been demonstrating its latest gyrations? In my career in
consulting in health economics, I have come under more pressure to
generate good results from public bodies than private, though this may
just be a chance occurrence. If economic or other evaluations are to be
of value to their sponsors, they must make the case. If they are to be of
value to society, they must make the case honestly and transparently.
Transparency and peer review are the best defences against the agendas of
others.
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Sir,
Richard Smith’s editorial (1) accounts for the reason I have the pleasure of sending weekly a rapid response to bmj.com., wherein I generally discuss medical problem from biophysical-semeiotic view-point. The “price” of everybody depends on personal scientific, moral, ethical, and religious education, namely on inherited and environmental characteristics, which represents single person’s Weltanschauung. In my case, I always honour my dear parents, who considered the “sincerità”, the first of all virtues. More precisely speaking, according to my mother and father, sincerity indicates “adequatio intellectus, cordis et verbi”, so that I will always state that “Oncological Terrain” (2) exists, BUT ONLY in about 30% of people around the world, that without oncological terrain oncogenesis is not possible, that spending money on useless cancer prevention, i.e., in individuals without oncological terrain is criminal action.
1) Smith R. What's your price? BMJ 2003;327 (9 August)
2) Stagnaro S. http://digilander.libero.it/semeioticabiofisica,
MetaCrawler
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The BMJ has not yet hit rock bottom, but the surface is a long way
off. In our universe, an invitation to a business lunch is quite a long
way from an offer of sex, and people who mistake the two are charitably
described as confused.
I suspect that since:
1) The BMJ has an enormous amount of advertising from drug companies.
2) Journalists - including medical ones - are wildly perceived to be the
least moral group in society.
3) Phrases such as " the most important BMJ in 50 years"
appear to trip off the tounge of the editor.
It would seem reasonable to assume that an invitation to lunch or dinner
could convince the editor of just about anything - including perhaps the
delusion that the dash to the gutter by the BMJ is a good thing.
Please grow up.
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They are more successful...
First of all, the Journal should print what they know and what is
right. If they don't do that,it might be harmfull for readers, especially
in health sector. I think he is right at this point. On the other hand
it's not nice to evaluate an invitation to lunch as an offer of sex. This
approach is not nice. I also don't agree that all private companies make
more pressure than public ones to get what they want. The way of doing
business of private companies is different from public ones.
I think
procedures might change depending on a countries procedures, but usually
private companies have to go through a lot of red tape. They compete
more. It is not right to accuse them because of their ways to achieve their
goals. They are successful and their consumers are pleased. They don't
compete under same conditions but they do a better job than public
companies.
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